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luckyduck
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 Posted - 05 Feb 2013 : 08:38:54
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| The simple answer Robin, is yes they can - they are beauracrats, who just look at numbers, and their job security(if there are no big planning applications, the planners have less work to do, and therefore jobs are at risk) - our only hope is that the elected councillors take action, but as there are seldom much in the way of election choices at local elections, most of them must be feeling that they can do what they like as they will always get elected. |
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AngmeringAl
Junior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Feb 2013 : 18:21:34
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Well as someone who lives close to Chandlers in the Square , i am pleased with the plans , they are much better than having the car showroom and repair centre in the village . As for car parking space , once they are gone , it wont be needed , the 50 odd staff that work there wont be parking their cars in the village anymore , they are not allowed to park on their site , plus all the overflow cars for servicing that are parked in Water Lane and surrounding roads will be gone too . The site also incorporates parking for the new dwellings .
Why does anyone in the village want a filthy car park , lets concentrate on the important large scale proposed housing schemes that are comming . The ones being built on green land etc |
Edited by - AngmeringAl on 06 Feb 2013 18:22:19 |
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Posted - 07 Feb 2013 : 12:58:18
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| Thank you Neil for the detailed description of Angmering Boundary lines.However, the Littlehampton Gazette has headlines on its website detailing plans for the Rustington Retail Park. They are one and the same! |
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neil
Forum Owner / Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Feb 2013 : 16:52:50
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No matter what the LG or others call the retail park, it does not alter the fact that it is in the parish of Angmering!
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roosterbri
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 Mar 2013 : 12:30:24
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Originally posted by neil
I think it may be very difficult to oppose the proposed retail park as the site already has planning permission for 4 large car showrooms and workshops which would probably employ 100-200 staff. The entrance on the bridge has already been approved and ADC already recognises through its previous planning permission that there would probably be many hundreds of vehicle movements on and off the site each day.
All the site needs, therefore, is change of usage.
Any guesses who the national chain "anchor" store would be?
Well of course what we need round here is another Food Supermarket...lol... so I would also place a bet on ""ALDI"" getting in the picture |
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Chuckle Brother
Average Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12 Mar 2013 : 21:31:00
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This e-mail received today:
“Public expression of “NO CONFIDENCE in Arun District Council”
Across the district different communities have different “issues” but they all seem to share one common problem – a lack of confidence in Arun District Council.
Today marks the launch of a district-wide poster campaign to enable members of the public to express their lack of confidence in Arun District Council.
At election time local politicians ask us to place posters in our window to show our support for them. We can also use this method to express our lack of confidence in our council.
Please print off the attached poster and display it in a prominent position.
Then please forward this e-mail to as many people as possible – deleting the details of the person who sent it to you.
This is your chance to make your feelings known! Please help to spread the word.”
… the poster can be downloaded here: http://objectionstoarunslocalplan.wordpress.com/2013/03/12/public-expression-of-no-confidence-in-arun-district-council/
MY POSTER IS ON DISPLAY!
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Chuckle Brother
Average Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Mar 2013 : 20:56:22
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Arun District Council has commissioned URS, a London-based consultancy, to prepare two visioning studies for developments built on Garden City or Suburban principles. One for Angmering and one for Barnham, Eastergate and Westergate.
In a letter published in the Bognor Observer the Villages Action Group said:
“the council circulated this report to some Parish Councils who were given just two weeks to comment on this document. Arun District Council had instructed them NOT to share it with the public and refused them more time. They had also been threatened by ADC that if they released this ‘stakeholder’ document to the public, other documents would not be shared with them.”
Nick Herbert MP has now published both of these documents on his web site. You can read details here:
http://www.nickherbert.com/data/files/130306_draft_three_villages_visioning_brief.pdf
http://www.nickherbert.com/data/files/130317_draft_angmering_visioning_brief.pdf
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Pansy
Senior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Mar 2013 : 22:51:06
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Well done Nick Herbert for bringing this ghastly plan into the public domain. It makes unedifying reading. Angmering village to become a "Garden City". What idiot commissioned this plan and how much of taxpayers money was paid to the consultants?
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Nigel
Senior Member
United Kingdom
238 Posts |
Posted - 19 Mar 2013 : 00:06:00
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| Indeed, well done Nick Herbert , but surely, shame on the councillors of Angmering, Barnham, Eastergate & Westergate for allowing ADC to dictate to them and for them to not stand up for their parishioners in a more robust manner. |
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luckyduck
Moderator
United Kingdom
169 Posts |
Posted - 19 Mar 2013 : 08:16:40
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| Do you honestly expect anything else from our councillors? As reported in a number of papers, either councillors and/or the planners are paid consultants for the developers. Let's just hope at the next council elections we get a real choice of councillors to vote for, and not automatically return those we have now. |
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Robinf
Senior Member
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Posted - 19 Mar 2013 : 08:50:35
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ADC have now nailed their colours firmly to the mast and in doing so have shown a spectacular disregard for the views of the people they are supposedly representing; arrogance beyond belief. Small wonder then, they have been delaying the decision of the Baratt’s planning application. They seem to be getting themselves into a real b****rs muddle and as planners, they’d make fine quantum physicists. Is there anyone on ADC who has a spine and who is prepared to stand up to these megalomaniacs?
If you have not done so already, now is the time to print your “NO CONFIDENCE in Arun District Council” poster.
And as for APC, what were they thinking of when they acquiesced to ADC’s dictatorial instruction? Perhaps a suitably worded question to the next APC meeting wouldn’t go amiss.
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Pansy
Senior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Mar 2013 : 09:00:55
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| Would it be too much to expect that the Councillors who commissioned this Angmering Visioning Brief would have the courtesy to stand up at a public meeting and explain to the residents of the Angmering why they feel so strongly that Angmering (village) should become Angmering Garden City? Oh yes, and perhaps they will tell us how much this visioning brief cost? |
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luckyduck
Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Mar 2013 : 09:11:45
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| If you read the report, the pictures used are of Welwyn Garden city - this is not just about making Angmering a bit bigger, some megalomaniac has even bigger ideas for the village |
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Mr Growser
Average Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Mar 2013 : 10:01:54
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A shameful indictment of the casual manner in which the ADC view the wishes of their Electorate ie. us Villagers.
Even the Kremlin would approve of this arrogant high handed approach and ,as ever ,secrecy rules and those responsible remain well hidden from us,the Proletariat. Any chance of fingering the person who authorised this nonsense and asking him to appear in public to face the debate is just not likely to happen.
Does anyone know whether the FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT could be used to smoke these wretches out and let us know whether there have been any declarations of interest? |
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Posted - 19 Mar 2013 : 15:11:23
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This is no surprise in view of ADC's history. I have trouble viewing the pathetic layout. If you zoom in on Adobe you still get a restricted view. Any ides anyone?
As regards the "new school" will the residents of Bramley Green get a refund of the school build premium levied on their new homes when they bought them?
I would like to view the posting in a more accessible format to take in the information. |
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Pansy
Senior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Mar 2013 : 15:29:59
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| I downloaded the "Vision" but unfortunately it was no easier to read. Looks as if it is printed on shiny paper but the faded typeface is difficult to read. I certainly don't want to waste expensive printer ink printing out 40 pages. Perhaps we can view the original document in the offices of Angmering Parish Council? |
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Posted - 19 Mar 2013 : 19:22:49
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| Thank you Pansy, the whole process has been made as difficult as possible. So much for democracy! |
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Chuckle Brother
Average Member
United Kingdom
42 Posts |
Posted - 19 Mar 2013 : 21:12:36
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For me there is a very simple question here:
Would any council commission a "visioning brief" if it had not already made its mind up? |
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Chuckle Brother
Average Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Mar 2013 : 21:30:18
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... and I forgot to say that these visioning briefs were commissioned before the outcome of the draft Local Plan public consultation had even been considered by ADC members!
5 councillors challenged this with a call in.
The Agenda and Minutes can be viewed here: http://www.arun.gov.uk/main.cfm?type=OVERVIEWSELECTCOMM See Special meeting of 4th October 2012.
The councillors on the committee rejected the call-in. Shame on them.
By the way, the cost of the "visioning briefs" was £15,000 |
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Robinf
Senior Member
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Posted - 20 Mar 2013 : 07:12:35
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This whole thing has got Ricky Bower's fingerprints all over it and ably backed no doubt by his very good friend, the Leader of the Council (I use the word leader with considerable caution). If it hasn't, perhaps the Cabinet Member for Planning would like to stand up in public and deny it.
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Chuckle Brother
Average Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 Mar 2013 : 13:04:20
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Sadly, tonight's episode of Mrs Browns Boys has been cancelled. This e-mail received this morning:
Further to your e-mail of 25 February 2013 and Mrs Futcher’s response to you of 26 February 2013 regarding Public Question Time for tonight’s Full Council meeting, I need to confirm to you that Arun District Council has been forced to postpone tonight’s Full Council meeting for health and safety reasons.
Building work in the Civic Suite has led to the discovery of a potentially harmful substance within the structure of the building. Tests have so far proved inconclusive but, due to the age of the building, there is the possibility it could be asbestos.
As a precautionary measure, the meeting scheduled for tonight has to be cancelled and will be re-arranged.
Nigel Lynn, Arun District Council’s Chief Executive, has made a Statement: “Work was being done to improve the sound system when the issue arose late on Tuesday evening. We don’t know yet what it is but we have taken the decision to cancel tonight’s meeting while we await the results of the tests that are being carried out.”
Councillor Mrs Gillian Brown has said: “This is totally beyond our control. We know that many people had made arrangements to attend tonight’s meeting but we have no choice other than to postpone the meeting. There is every chance the substance is not asbestos but it would be irresponsible to continue with tonight’s meeting without knowing for sure.”
Tuesday night’s Overview Select Committee was also cancelled.
All further meetings scheduled for the Civic Centre this week have been cancelled. |
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luckyduck
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United Kingdom
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derekdainton
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Posted - 26 Mar 2013 : 09:22:07
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The Chairman of APC has promptly responded to my question regarding the suggested concealment by ADC of the Garden City proposals from the Parish Council.
Whilst it is not clear from his response whether the whole Parish Council were aware of the meeting invitation, it surely cannot be justified that our local Councillors are muzzled by ADC in the way suggested. Surely, the first responsibility of Parish Councillors is towards the village, not Arun District Council.
Had all Councillors known of the meeting, or, subsequently, its content, it is hard to believe they would accept the condition of confidentiality on such an important matter.
Against this backcloth, hats of to Nick Herbert for exposing any potential duplicity in local Government. |
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neil
Forum Owner / Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 Mar 2013 : 09:30:51
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Agreed, APC should not have agreed to confidentiality in this case. What on earth were representatives thinking of in doing this! This is leading to yet more distrust of APC!
Our District Council representatives seem pretty mute! Whose side are they on - Angmering residents or their political party? |
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Nigel
Senior Member
United Kingdom
238 Posts |
Posted - 26 Mar 2013 : 13:34:37
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Having read the minutes of the ADC Special Overview Select Committee (4th.Oct 2012), I notice that it was attended by the Chairpersons of Aldingbourne PC, Barnham PC and the Five Village Society, all of who spoke. I noted that no representative of APC or any Angmering District Councillor attended this meeting although Cllr Wensley at least sent his apologies.
Given the importance of this meeting, isn't it rather strange that our representatives chose not to attend. It beggers the question of who do they represent and were all of our councillors made aware of this meeting, it's subject, and it's importance to the residents of Angmering as I can't find any reference in any APC meeting minutes to the matter. |
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luckyduck
Moderator
United Kingdom
169 Posts |
Posted - 26 Mar 2013 : 13:45:52
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| Apathy village strikes again |
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seagull
Average Member
United Kingdom
49 Posts |
Posted - 26 Mar 2013 : 17:15:09
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I hear that only one Angmering councillor knew of this Angmering Visioning Brief. The first the rest of
them knew about it was when it was leaked by Nick Herbert! Councillor Wensley must have known all about
this as the Deputy Leader and Cabinet member. Why hasn't he let APC know at one of the Parish Council
meetings? Who is running Arun District Council these days - Nigel Lynn and his planning officers or the
elected councillors? |
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Pansy
Senior Member
United Kingdom
172 Posts |
Posted - 26 Mar 2013 : 22:01:18
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Perhaps ADC believe in "mushroom politics".........keep us in the dark and shovel......need I say more?
If we don't know what is going on then we cannot oppose their decisions. So much for transparency.
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luckyduck
Moderator
United Kingdom
169 Posts |
Posted - 28 Mar 2013 : 15:11:45
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| Anyone know why the trees along Roundstone Lane by the Rugby Club are being cleared - is this anything to do with any of the proposed developments? |
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derekdainton
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Posted - 18 Apr 2013 : 09:25:40
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Quoting from the News Page's report on the APC meeting, and the discussion regarding the handling of the Angmering Visioning Brief the Chairman stated that "he believed that the Parish Council’s position had not been damaged by this".
Is the Chairman living on another planet? Does he seriously believe his own propaganda? |
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Chuckle Brother
Average Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12 May 2013 : 07:54:11
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The Pre-Submission Local Plan has now been published.
It will be considered by the Local Plan Sub-Committee at their meeting on 16th May 2013.
Then it will go forward to Full Council on 29th May 2013 to be authorised to go out to regulation 20 public consultation.
The plan advocates “Garden City” style developments in Angmering, Barnham, Eastergate and Aldingbourne. It excludes the two largest brownfield sites in the district – Ford Airfield and the former Topblock factory.
By leaving these brownfield sites available, will this make it more or less likely that Arun is required to make provision for additional housing on behalf of Worthing, London and the South Downs National Park?
We must also wonder if this plan is all about the personal ambition of a small clique of Councillors?
If you are concerned in any way, then please attend the meetings on 16th and 29th May.
Here is the link: http://www.arun.gov.uk/main.cfm?type=LOCALPLAN2&objectid=6221&searchtermredirect=Local%20Plan%202013%20-%202028%20and%20beyond
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luckyduck
Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14 May 2013 : 08:16:03
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| Local Plan Sub-Committee meeting will be on 16th May 2013 - 6pm at the Civic Centre, Maltravers Rd, Littlehampton |
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seagull
Average Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 May 2013 : 14:58:38
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I see Arun are persisting, in their Local Plan, to build around 600 homes in Angmering with their daft Garden City idea. In last weeks Gazette I notice that Ford Parish Council are considering building 700
homes on the airfield site. This is the best site in Arun for a Garden city so where is it in their Local Plan? |
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Atomius
Junior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 May 2013 : 17:33:08
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| Ford is way superior imo. It's got a train station nearby which isn't exactly over capacity utilised, mainly being used for changing services. Much better than making Angmering Village into a misnomer. Any more houses and it'll be a town |
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luckyduck
Moderator
United Kingdom
169 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2013 : 15:53:18
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I think the key thing we need to be asking our councillors is:
A year ago they voted for 400 houses pa, in the new ADC Local Plan - the planners have ignored this and continued with their push for 600+, so it is not surprising that the councillors voted this latest plan down.
So I think we need to be asking our councillors whether they have any confidence at all in their planning department, and head of planning who is consistently ignoring the wishes of the councillors and their electorate, and at the same time it is the head of planning who has allowed the local plan to lapse, giving an entree to developers, who the planners are talking to as best of buddies to ensure they all get what they want, and the population of Arun can just be ignored. |
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luckyduck
Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Jun 2013 : 12:44:13
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| How very nice of Arun District Council to consider the village in its latest publication for the Angmering Garden City - the final page states "This Brief provides a strategic view of how 500-600 homes could be delivered east of Angmering. More detailed masterplanning work (including design coding) and additional feasibility studies will need to be undertaken by landowners as part of their planning applications, in conjunction with the District and County Councils. In particular, agreement on the delivery of site-wide infrastructure such as the roads, central green spine, public realm and local centre and new primary school needs to be reached in advance of development commencing." Wouldn't it have been very nice of Arun to also consider talking to the parish council and existing residents of the village!!!!!! There arrogance is beyond belief, but hardy surprising given they live in their ivory towers with their only care being how much money they can get from developers for their pet projects. |
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Pansy
Senior Member
United Kingdom
172 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jun 2013 : 16:07:20
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| Democracy has died a death in Arun! |
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Paul
Advanced Member
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Posted - 10 Jun 2013 : 22:07:18
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| As they seem to believe it is a done deal, let's hope their infrastructure and pet plans include all elements including water, sewerage, drains, telephony/intranet capability, schools, medical, dental, roads, shorter downtimes for level crossings, buses, pathways, cycle tracks, etc. Or perhaps only the new developments will get these. I would suggest that we probably have enough supermarkets for now. |
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HanceR
Junior Member
United Kingdom
28 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jun 2013 : 21:43:56
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I cannot believe what I have just read on AVL's news page surely this is a cause for action by ADC councillors, who are the employers of the chief executive and the planning department, to call the employees to book and ask why they are acting outside of decisions taken at council meetings.
If policy is being set by ADC staff why do we have elected councillors?
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roosterbri
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 Jun 2013 : 14:59:09
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| Too many hidden agendas by all parties |
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