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beernard
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United Kingdom
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 Posted - 24 Jan 2011 : 19:30:41
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| 6 police officers were guarding Arundal Road this afternoon outside the school, palmer and chantryfield Road. Something to do with parking i think! Money well spent? I know it gets very busy at school run time and some of the parking is a bit shocking but 6 officers!!!. What a waste of money and time!! |
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jammer
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Posted - 24 Jan 2011 : 19:51:26
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Good! Its ridiculous the amount of people who drive to that school and block the road. Some of them sit there for 30 mins or more just to get a space, when they probably only live a 15 minute walk away! Sad really in this day and age where people are encouraged to get a bit healthier. Surely not all of those people come from far enough away to justify driving. During drop off / pick up times that road is virtually impassable. I hate to think how a fire engine would be able to get through. I agree its usually all or nothing with the police round here but at least it was a bit more orderly today. Shame it will be the same old rigmarole tomorrow!
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Bert
Advanced Member
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Posted - 24 Jan 2011 : 20:43:26
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I agree jammer, the area around that school, mornings and afternoons at drop off and pick up times is nothing short of a disgrace.
Perhaps beernard would have a different view, if in similar circumstances relating to where he/she lives, an ambulance or fire engine could not get to his/her property, with serious consequences, he may well have thought a few police, trying to educate people for three quarters of an hour, one afternoon, money very well spent. |
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neil
Forum Owner / Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 Jan 2011 : 10:27:41
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I understand that yesterday's action was the result of many residents around the area of the school writing and phoning the police about the dangerous and the inconsiderate parking by parents. Some people have had their driveways blocked and cars have been parking on the grass verges. Some of the parking is too close to the junctions and the speed calmer; this is also very dangerous for the children arriving and leaving school.
The police decided to go up to the school yesterday with enough officers to cover all the junctions and lines to offer advice on drivers' poor parking. The lines in the Chantryfield area are to be repainted by the council and then the parking enforcement officers will be attending. They will dish out tickets - not advice!
So, be warned! |
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GreenFields
Average Member
United Kingdom
65 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jan 2011 : 21:15:30
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| Lets hope Bramley Green is next:o) |
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BFA
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
410 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jan 2011 : 23:22:46
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The whole village is a nightmare most times of the day. Driving North on Arundel road, if there's no oncoming traffic you may as well stay on the wrong side of the road from St Wilfs to St Mags, otherwise it's nipping into gaps between parked cars and the same applies on Water lane, trouble is when you're going the other way many drivers don't show the same consideration and the same applies at the pinch points too. People drive at you knowing full well they don't have right of way, or follow the car in front of them without knowing or caring if they have time to make the same manoeuvre as well.
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Originally posted by neil
cars have been parking on the grass verges.
The Police should have a word with the Post Office, the grass verge by the post box at the pedestrian crossing near the Co-op is totalled - there is no grass. Their vans park half on the zig-zag lines and half on the (grass-less) verge, which as well as writing off the verge, is dangerous. They could use the co-op's drive of course, but why walk ten metres when you can walk one step.
This presence at the school will be the same old same old from the police, they'll have a purge and then disappear.
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Bert
Advanced Member
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Posted - 26 Jan 2011 : 13:48:55
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| BFA. What reply did you get when you made representation to the local postmaster, in respect of this square metre of grass verge, by the postbox? |
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Bert
Advanced Member
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Posted - 26 Jan 2011 : 16:14:45
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Returning to the St. Margarets School issue.
Although as my earlier post indicates, I am totally against the chaotic parking at drop off and pick up times, I do have some sympathy for many parents who live in the southern half of the village, whose children attend St. Margarets.
I imagine quite a lot of parents who live on Bramley Green and The Dell, have a problem with getting children too and from St. M. which is right at the very northern end of the village.
If my memory serves me correctly, the Builders Consortium who were involved in the construction of Bramley Green, gave up £600,000, for the building of a new school on land at the southern end of BG, which I believe is owned by WSCC and was initially set aside for the school, which would have been for the same age group as St. Margarets.
In practice of course, the Consortium added apprx. £1,000 to the cost of each property on BG, so those that initially bought the properties, paid for a school, which would have been very beneficial to those families living on BG and others on the southern half of the village.
That school was not built. Some of that funding went to St. M., but did not resolve the problem of an increasing junior school population in a village of 8,000+.
I do not know where the rest of the funding went to, but I think it was a poor decision, not to build a junior school on land that would have been ideal and initially agreed by WSCC for the purpose, and for which BG purchasors were expecting to get, had paid for and may well have been an influence on their decision to buy.
As the population increases, as it certainly will, to a greater or lesser extent, the need for a second school will become urgent, and the decision not to build this school, when the site and private funding was in place, will be seen to have been wrong. |
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BFA
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
410 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jan 2011 : 18:11:49
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Originally posted by Bert
BFA. What reply did you get when you made representation to the local postmaster, in respect of this square metre of grass verge, by the postbox?
I never made any representation, the verge is a council matter and the dangerous/illegal parking is a police one and neither seems to care. |
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Bert
Advanced Member
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Posted - 27 Jan 2011 : 10:38:27
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| BFA; but you care, and as a local resident and businessman, a brief letter to the local postmaster will probably resolve the problem. |
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angmeringpaul
Senior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Jan 2011 : 14:49:04
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| Hopefully while at the school the police may try to consider a solution to the situation rather than harassing parents taking their children to school on their way to work. |
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Bert
Advanced Member
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Posted - 27 Jan 2011 : 15:46:37
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angmeringpaul.
Personally, I don't see it as the role of the police to provide a "solution to the situation."
They cannot produce a large car park out of thin air, and place it next to the school.
As Neil commented, "...residents around the school have written and 'phoned the police to complain about the dangerous and inconsiderate parking by parents."
It is therefore the role of the drivers, ie. parents, who park dangerously and inconsideratly, to provide a solution.
Perhaps the solution, is as easy as taking a little more time and care over when and where they "plant" their vehicle when dropping off and collecting the boys and girls. |
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BFA
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
410 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jan 2011 : 20:35:58
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Originally posted by Bert
as a local resident and businessman, a brief letter to the local postmaster will probably resolve the problem.
Only temporarily if at all, and I'm talking from plenty of relevant experience. For the same offence to be carried out day in, day out, the Police simply are not doing their job. The best that happens, with offenders or the police and whether at the school, this pedestrian crossing or anywhere else, is that the offenders skulk away under protest but then creep back, or the police have a purge to be seen to be doing the right thing, but they don't keep it up. Enforcement is useless if it's not consistent.
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angmeringpaul
Senior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Jan 2011 : 23:02:11
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Thanks for that Bert. What I was trying to suggest was that rather than harassing busy parents maybe considering the bigger picture would be an idea. I do realise the role of the police is not to solve problems but to punish wrongdoers however they could observe and have a valuable input into the real situation.
By the way I am not a parent of a child at St Margerets.
As to the cars (post office vehicles)parking on the approach to the traffic lights it would only take one or two visits, and one or two tickets to solve the problem of drivers doing this. Sadly the police won't tackle drivers ignoring Give Way signs at level crossings or turning right from left hand lane at roundabouts etc because its too "difficult" to do.
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Pansy
Senior Member
United Kingdom
172 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jan 2011 : 09:01:02
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| Perhaps the time has arrived to give serious consideration to a school bus service with pick-up points at the Community Centre, Baptist Church and Village Hall? |
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neil
Forum Owner / Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 Jan 2011 : 09:26:06
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Agree, Pansy.
Angmering Parish Council should be well under way with their own plans in this respect. In May 2007, the PC issued the following statement; quote:
To reduce car usage, we will consider:
• working with the community to analyse the public transport services needed;
• working with local suppliers to improve the service, in the times they run and the routes they take;
• looking at ways of funding improved cycle ways and pavements;
• consider ways of enforcing the speed limit, including SIDs (Speed Indicator Devices);
• looking at community travel options, such as a minibus, that will provide transport for the elderly and the primary schools;
• investigating options to reduce car travel to and from the village, particularly at peak times, whilst still providing public transport facilities to ensure that trade levels are sustained in the centre of the village;
• working with the local farm shops to provide transport services to and from markets;
• consider improved cycle tracking in the centre of the village and promote the use of the existing facilities;
• working with the schools to develop a walking bus;
• promoting car sharing schemes and alternative methods of travelling to work.
Perhaps the Parish Council can update us with their progress after nearly three years. |
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angmeringpaul
Senior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 Jan 2011 : 14:29:15
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Re the bus. Some years ago Angmering School got a minibus sponsored by local businesses. So its not impossible. |
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Chick5
New Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 Jan 2011 : 17:10:48
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| Although a school bus sounds like a good solution to some traffic issues, I don't think it would be ideal for all parents for example those parents with children in Reception year and even years 1 and 2 as the children would be aged only between 4 - 7 yrs and too young to travel alone. Also those parents who have more than one child could end up with older children travelling on the bus but still having to make that car journey anyway as their other child(ren) are too young to travel by bus alone. |
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