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BRAM
Advanced Member

373 Posts

Posted - 01 Aug 2009 :  22:59:49  Show Profile
APC meeting notes show that village PCSO Andrea Oakley was not in attendance & will be leaving in September for her new job in Angmering School Safer School Partnership Team starting in the new school term. However Sussex Police website already shows her as in post with no replacement PCSO listed for Angmering.
Could it be that Angmering is now crime free or no longer worthy of police presence?

patty
Advanced Member

United Kingdom
738 Posts

Posted - 01 Aug 2009 :  23:10:56  Show Profile
Think you will find BRAM that Andrea's job does not actually start until new term - September.
After all, in theory no children at school at the moment so not much point in being there this month.

She did tell me that she was awaiting confirmation of her replacement and would let us know as soon as she knew.
It is not the intention of her superiors of leaving us without a PCSO.

Fingers crossed. I am really sure we will get a replacement.



any comments and views listed above are those of myself personally and not as a Parish Councillor, and in no way reflect opinions of the Parish Council or any other professional bodies
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BRAM
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373 Posts

Posted - 01 Aug 2009 :  23:16:45  Show Profile
Patty

Thanks for that. Sussex Police were obviously premature in amending their NPT web page.
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BRAM
Advanced Member

373 Posts

Posted - 11 Aug 2009 :  10:15:15  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by patty

Think you will find BRAM that Andrea's job does not actually start until new term - September.
After all, in theory no children at school at the moment so not much point in being there this month.

She did tell me that she was awaiting confirmation of her replacement and would let us know as soon as she knew.
It is not the intention of her superiors of leaving us without a PCSO.

Fingers crossed. I am really sure we will get a replacement.




Following the APC Chairmans reply at the meeting last night (10/8/09) it seems that you were overly optimistic Patty.
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patty
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United Kingdom
738 Posts

Posted - 11 Aug 2009 :  10:21:28  Show Profile
Hey BRAM

You know what they are saying about optimists - they apparently live longer than pessimists!

Heavens help us all!!!

any comments and views listed above are those of myself personally and not as a Parish Councillor, and in no way reflect opinions of the Parish Council or any other professional bodies
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BRAM
Advanced Member

373 Posts

Posted - 14 Oct 2009 :  13:47:13  Show Profile
Welcome to our new PCSO Neil Billingham whom I have seen several times in the BG area over the last week. I hope this isn't due to a sudden increase in crime or merely to protect the CC, but will be a regular occurrence providing BG residents with a visible police presence at last.

Edited by - BRAM on 14 Oct 2009 13:47:42
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compost
Advanced Member

265 Posts

Posted - 18 Dec 2009 :  21:59:26  Show Profile
Hi,

I am probably just being thick, but can someone clarify a few things in relation to the policing stats,

Nov shows "serials" of 237 and states a rise of 35, yet Oct showed 182 so I make that 55.
What is a "serial", whats the difference between a "serial" and recorded crime ?
Can we have an indication of detection rates.

Cheers
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neil
Forum Owner / Moderator

United Kingdom
2623 Posts

Posted - 18 Dec 2009 :  23:42:41  Show Profile
I might be wrong but I think Serials are just incidents that have been reported and given a serial number.

Detection rates seem to have been dropped from the statistics in recent months. I wonder why?

I've never quite understood the rolling statistics either, compost. Perhaps they are changes in 3 month averages.
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BRAM
Advanced Member

373 Posts

Posted - 20 Dec 2009 :  18:11:12  Show Profile
Who was it once said :
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."
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neil
Forum Owner / Moderator

United Kingdom
2623 Posts

Posted - 20 Dec 2009 :  18:18:13  Show Profile
I also like that quote by Andrew Lang (1844-1912) which he said of a colleague:

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts- for support rather than illumination".
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compost
Advanced Member

265 Posts

Posted - 20 Dec 2009 :  20:15:17  Show Profile
Statistics - 8 out of 10 people say they do not take part in polls.

I love the strange way in which stats can show what the person/company want them too.

In a weird one, 7% of road accidents are caused by drivers under the influence of drink - 93% by sober people - is it safer to have a drink!!

Off subject I know - but hey it is christmas.
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compost
Advanced Member

265 Posts

Posted - 17 Jul 2010 :  21:52:32  Show Profile
17th of the month and no update to the policing page showing stats for crime/detection of crime. Is this an oversight or another lax display by our PCSO - sorry to sound harsh - I have never seen an officer in the part of the village i live in (is this a good thing and indicates no crime). It is interesting to see this monthly report and i feel is important that the police show how they are acting in our area.
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neil
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United Kingdom
2623 Posts

Posted - 18 Jul 2010 :  00:02:42  Show Profile
I have not received the statistics from our PCSO this month. Presume he has forgotten to send them or is away on holiday!

Unlike the previous PCSOs, I'm finding it impossible to build any relationship with this one - and not for the want of trying. Previously I worked with the PCSOs promoting their initiatives. It's so frustrating!
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bgresident
Senior Member

United Kingdom
183 Posts

Posted - 18 Jul 2010 :  18:12:22  Show Profile
I met the new PSCO at a school event recently (eating a hot dog/burger and parading around in his flak jacket) - you are wasting your time Neil! Don't care what anybody says, PSCOs are nothing more than a money saving exercise conceived by some self serving politician trying to score brownie points.

The whole concept should be scrapped!! They have no powers and are nothing more than security guards in a police uniform.

Edited by - bgresident on 18 Jul 2010 18:13:23
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neil
Forum Owner / Moderator

United Kingdom
2623 Posts

Posted - 21 Jul 2010 :  11:26:33  Show Profile
June statistics received last night from PCSO Billingham and now posted to Policing page.
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angmeringpaul
Senior Member

United Kingdom
234 Posts

Posted - 21 Jul 2010 :  22:33:32  Show Profile
I won't always agree with BG resident but he/she is spot on here.
A good PCSO is a valuable asset but otherwise is a minimum wage muppet in a uniform. If the residents of the village can't recognise the PCSO on sight then they are not doing their job....anyone know what he looks like?
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neil
Forum Owner / Moderator

United Kingdom
2623 Posts

Posted - 21 Jul 2010 :  23:20:06  Show Profile
See my Policing page for photo of PCSO Billingham.
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BFA
Advanced Member

United Kingdom
410 Posts

Posted - 22 Jul 2010 :  00:40:55  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by angmeringpaul

If the residents of the village can't recognise the PCSO on sight then they are not doing their job


I know what he looks like, so I must be doing my job!

But although I'd like to see him more often and although we saw his predecessor more often, he is tasked by the police and does as he's told as opposed to what we or even he might like to
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Mr Growser
Average Member

United Kingdom
81 Posts

Posted - 22 Jul 2010 :  08:11:45  Show Profile
PCSO = CHIMP
Completely hopeless in most policing situations ?
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skippy2107
Average Member

United Kingdom
88 Posts

Posted - 08 Sep 2010 :  21:32:50  Show Profile
Does anyone have an email address for our new pcso? Couldn't find this on the sussex police website. Thank you
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neil
Forum Owner / Moderator

United Kingdom
2623 Posts

Posted - 08 Sep 2010 :  22:30:30  Show Profile
The email address is on the Policing page of this website, under Who's Who, along with a photo of PCSO Billingham
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BRAM
Advanced Member

373 Posts

Posted - 09 Sep 2010 :  11:18:18  Show Profile
The new Sussex police website is no improvement on the previous site although it probably cost a lot of money to produce but it doesn't seem to know who our PCSO is. Are we sure that he still works here?
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Bert
Advanced Member

484 Posts

Posted - 09 Sep 2010 :  12:46:10  Show Profile
I have just put up Sussex Police website, clicked on "Your Neighbourhood."

Followed link, to identify Neighbourhood oficer, to search bar for post code, which I entered, and the full details of the PCSO were there plus all contact details.
Nothing difficult about it, very simple.
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skippy2107
Average Member

United Kingdom
88 Posts

Posted - 05 Oct 2010 :  20:57:03  Show Profile
Thank you. The Sussex Police website was down when I made the post. I have now found the e-mail address
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compost
Advanced Member

265 Posts

Posted - 19 Apr 2011 :  22:14:47  Show Profile
Was there no crime to report in March, I find the stats interesting. Do we still have a PCSO in the village ? Still not seen one in my street - been here 8 years now.
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neil
Forum Owner / Moderator

United Kingdom
2623 Posts

Posted - 19 Apr 2011 :  23:16:34  Show Profile
I did not receive a police report for March. I will chase our PCSO for it.
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neil
Forum Owner / Moderator

United Kingdom
2623 Posts

Posted - 20 Apr 2011 :  16:07:43  Show Profile
Compost, I've now had a response from PCSO Andrea Oakley.

Apparently, the police have a new way of distributing Parish Reports, which means she no longer has to do them. A Community Engagement Officer working at Littlehampton is sending the crime reports for the area via an emailing system.

Hopefully, when the new system is up and running I will start getting messages each week rather than monthly. The first reports will hopefully be coming out tomorrow which will contain 3 weeks worth and then it goes weekly.

However, it remains to be seen how practical it will be to publish them on the AVL site.
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neil
Forum Owner / Moderator

United Kingdom
2623 Posts

Posted - 22 Apr 2011 :  09:04:41  Show Profile
The new style weekly crime/incident reports are now being uploaded to the AVL Policing page.
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Karl@KCM
Senior Member

United Kingdom
169 Posts

Posted - 22 Apr 2011 :  09:08:51  Show Profile
I'm assuming I saw the PCSO, tootling round the village on a mountain bike yesterday.
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compost
Advanced Member

265 Posts

Posted - 24 Apr 2011 :  16:15:42  Show Profile
Actually find the new style more interesting, plus locals may be able to help solve some of the crimes reported. The stealing of the 3 sat navs give where the crime was committed - did anyone see anything in the area that may have a bearing on the case. Not that they may have seen the crime, but were in the area at the time and saw a group of people, someone acting strangely or a witness from each area seeing the same person.
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