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luckyduck Posted - 30 Dec 2012 : 09:45:20
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derekdainton Posted - 09 May 2015 : 13:43:39
So the Conservative trio of Bicknell, Cooper and Wensley have been elected. So, if any new developments appear on the horizon We can now look forward to another period of robust and passionate defence.

I'm a keen advocate of democracy but signing your own suicide note does not seem a particularly wise move. Heaven help us.
derekdainton Posted - 07 May 2015 : 08:07:17
Perhaps it was a royal 'we'! Hardly worth making a fuss about.

Today is an opportunity for us to demonstrate our disappointment with our current elected representatives at ADC, and their less than robust stand against large scale developments. Don't waste that opportunity.
seagull Posted - 05 May 2015 : 21:40:55
As an 'Advanced Member' Bert you really are a muppet. Goodbye! I won't be reading this Forum any more.
Bert Posted - 05 May 2015 : 13:46:03
I have always assumed that a vote at either national or local level, is an entirely individual one.

I was not aware that anyone considers it a group vote, or that anyone speaks on my behalf.

Who exactly then is......"We."....?
seagull Posted - 04 May 2015 : 23:12:02
Derek is right. No point in voting for Labour or the Greens - they obviously don't care and their policies are stupid. The Tory run Arun District Council stitched up Angmering with their housing allocations and don't deserve our vote. Andy Cooper was an absolute disgrace when abstaining, instead of voting against the Angmering housing numbers. Our choice is somewhat limited, I suggest we vote for the only party that seems to listen to what WE want. Join the peoples army and vote UKIP. It's called Democracy!
seagull Posted - 04 May 2015 : 23:10:40
Derek is right. No point in voting for Labour or the Greens - they obviously don't care and their policies are stupid. The Tory run Arun District Council stitched up Angmering with their housing allocations and don't deserve our vote. Andy Cooper was an absolute disgrace when abstaining, instead of voting against the Angmering housing numbers. Our choice is somewhat limited, I suggest we vote for the only party that seems to listen to what WE want. Join the peoples party and vote UKIP. It's called Democracy!
derekdainton Posted - 04 May 2015 : 14:35:07
So SAV has now received replies to the questions they posed from the majority of prospective ADC candidates. Not from Labour, who probably thought there was little point, and not from the Greens - who cares?

Looking at the rest they are all spouting the same platitudes. What we need to look at is what they have done over the past years rather than what they intend to do, which is usually pretty meaningless.

WE can only look at the Tory track record and what they have achieved in terms of protecting the village. Precious little, I would suggest. It's all very well to talk about voting against development but I can't recall the Tory Councillors have done much else than put their hand up at the vote. There was little impassioned pleas evident at full Council meetings.

So where in all the responses received is the anger, the passion for change? And as for the common theme of dualling the A259 I have asked many times how this is going to benefit Angmering itself. So far, nobody has been able to make the case. It is said that will make it more likely that people will use the By-Pass? Dream on.
Robinf Posted - 01 May 2015 : 11:47:22
Originally posted by derekdainton

Have SAV received a response from any of the candidates? Still waiting for reply from Mr Cooper.

Yes, SAV has received several replies, including one from Andy Cooper, (but not from all we hasten to add), which will shall be publishing within the next few days in our Newsletter, on our Facebook page and SAV website.
derekdainton Posted - 30 Apr 2015 : 15:58:01
Have SAV received a response from any of the candidates? Still waiting for reply from Mr Cooper.
derekdainton Posted - 26 Apr 2015 : 10:50:31
Having written to our current Conservative Councillor Andy Cooper, giving him the opportunity to catalogue what he feels he has achieved for Angmering, I have yet to receive a response.

Have always been a Conservative supporter, and will continue to support our Local MP, but on the local election front, forget it!
Robinf Posted - 24 Apr 2015 : 14:24:43
District Council Elections – May 15th 2015.

With the upcoming District Council elections SAV thought this would be an excellent opportunity to pose a few questions to each of the 8 nominated candidates from the each of the 5 political parties they represent, these being, in no particular order of preference, Labour (1), Conservative (3), Lib Dems (2), Greens(1) and UKIP (1), especially as to-date leafleting of information about candidates and what they stand for seems to be patchy across the village.

The questions relate to local issues which will be of direct interest to the Angmering electorate regarding current and potential future large scale housing development in Angmering:

• Delivery of the developments east of Roundstone Lane,
• The timing of infrastructure delivery to support the Roundstone Lane Developments e.g. primary school places, A259 upgrade, doctors surgery.
• The ongoing threat by the Inspectorate for ADC to increase housing numbers in its Local Plan and the possible repercussions for Angmering.
• Their views on Localism and whether or not it is working.

SAV is non-politically motivated and their responses will be published verbatim in SAV's next Newsletter to be issued a few days before Election Day on 7th May.

We look forward to their responses and hope that it will be helpful in your decision making as to who will get your vote as your “local” representatives.
Paul Posted - 29 Jul 2013 : 20:46:18
The words "likely" and "potential" should be writ large to emphasise that they give no promise at all.
luckyduck Posted - 29 Jul 2013 : 12:20:42
Given the delay in ADC consideration of development options, the next critical date in the calendar is the meeting on August 7th, which our Parish Clerk is attending, to purportedly discuss development options in Angmering. See the APC website comment

We say 'purportedly' because there is continuing suspicion that this is not in fact a consideration of options but more a 'rubber stamp' of already agreed developments on Roundstone Lane between the developers and the planners.

Such an agenda would yet again illustrate the disdain which our councils have displayed to their electorate.
Sue Ware Posted - 24 Jul 2013 : 13:55:43
Please see my posting on Angmering General – Forum, Sticky Building Development in Angmering on 24 July 2013
Sue Ware
neil Posted - 24 Jun 2013 : 17:05:36
Peter Cleveland is Senior Planner at Arun District Council - see
Mr Growser Posted - 24 Jun 2013 : 16:56:56
Who is this Peter Cleveland and where does he fit in to the Arun Council Planning Management Structure ?
He certainly has not been visible at the recent Council Meetings attended by SAV Supporters.
His 20/06 " Dear All............Kind Regards " e mail confidential to the recipients listed as addressees and not intended for the Public Domain begs the question as to who authorised such an approach and was it undertaken with the Authority of the relevant elected Cabinet Member,Ricky Bowers?
If so then we should be told and if not P45 would be the next correct step.
Am not holding my breath for a satisfactory response to my rantings.
Democracy is dead in Arun!!!
Atomius Posted - 24 Jun 2013 : 16:45:01
To Smuggler-

All houses have been constructed at some point in time. Sustainable village sizes however can exist. There is plenty of land in Britain. Consider that it takes an hour to walk to Littlehampton. That's just two or three parishes at most. It took me seven hours to walk to Chichester via the South Downs Way. In this day of motoring it is easy to forget just how vast our land really is/was.

At any rate Angmering is a textbook example of too much sprawl in the wrong place. Ideally the village shouldn't have grown much larger than it was when my grandfather was growing up in the 30s. The house we live in now was built circa 1950 and I would consider those houses to be sprawl.

Bramley Green I have only cycled past so am not very acquainted with, but I read somewhere the village has a population of 5000. I think there is a definite case of sprawl here, whether it was required or not.

Back where I used to live there was a development called Sandon Point which was controversial for a number of reasons but one argument was 'let people live in this lovely spot'. Thing is after a while there's so many people it's no longer such a lovely spot.

The village is barely within the definition of the term these days. Compare us with Poling or Crossbush for instance. If we were surrounded by farmland for miles and had a couple more shops we'd be a town.

We are lucky to still retain some vestige of ruralness. I cycle to work across fields for some way, but am always aware that a mile away is the hustle and bustle of Rustington.

Arun is not the district for more housing. Firstly as it would be low-density it wouldn't be affordable, and secondly if there really must be any new housing built it should be at Ford. Ford is ideally suited for this as it has a railway station that is underutilised (and also lacks a gentlemen's bathroom as I noted last time I changed trains there)and could house some developments thereabout.

More houses in Roundstone would just add to the traffic problems on the road and add to the depreciation of the rural nature of the area.
luckyduck Posted - 24 Jun 2013 : 11:37:45
Smuggler - I presume you live in a house, and not a tent or caravan, in which case your house will have been built on England's green and pleasant land, however old it is, depriving someone of their ability to grow crops and feed themselves, even if it was the lord of the manor who owned the land.
derekdainton Posted - 24 Jun 2013 : 11:22:56
Smuggler, you seem to suggest that those 'Save Angmering Village people'
are those living primarily in the recent development areas. The support, however, is spread pretty equally around the entire village. And Angmering is still a village. At the moment anyway. Pity you don't seem to care much what happens.
neil Posted - 24 Jun 2013 : 09:36:18
This undemocratic action by Arun Planners is an absolute disgrace. Angmering Parish Council needs to take action and issue a public statement - NOW.

I've now raised the issue on the AVL News page. What is also needed is for people to write to both ADC and to the Littlehampton Gazette.
Smuggler Posted - 24 Jun 2013 : 09:24:47
It never seems to amaze me how the Save Angmering Village people have conveniently forgotten that your houses are on land once filtched from the wonderful village people. The land that Cumberland and BG, Greenacres were built on was once used for villagers to grow crops,have allotments and for countless little smallholdings to feed the village. WE didn't want your houses but it made no difference.
Lets face it Angmering is no longer a village its a small town.What right have you to try and stop others being a part of this wonderful community,and having somewhere nice to live
Atomius Posted - 23 Jun 2013 : 19:19:42
There is already enough sprawl around our tow- sorry, village...

Wouldn't it make more sense to build some higher density developments in the current conurbation to the south than further encroaching upon what little rural/semi-rural land exists as a barrier around the village?

In Simcity my advisors tell me that low density sprawl causes more problems than it solves. While it may be desirable, it does not promote affordable housing (which is what is needed), nor does it utilise resources efficiently.

Any planner who thinks Roundstone is the spot for a new housing development is an idiot or corrupt.
derekdainton Posted - 23 Jun 2013 : 18:43:33

The following e-mail has come to our attention at SAV. It suggests that despite supposed public consultation, recommendation of reduced housing by the ADC Local Plan Sub Committee, and agreement of that recommendation by full Council, the Planners are intent on progressing the developments to the east of Roundstone Lane by continuing to hold meetings with the developers concerned, possibly to facilitate the process of approval.

What price democracy? And what is the stance of our Parish Council in all this? Check it out.
roosterbri Posted - 02 Jun 2013 : 12:54:30
I see there is a plan on the Council Offices window for road modifications to allow for the development east of Roundstone Lane. Obviously a done deal!!!!

oooopss!! Just found it on Council Web Site
luckyduck Posted - 11 Apr 2013 : 15:13:53
Please see the SAV website for an urgent message about The Growth and Infrastructure bill in Parliament now - it could have huge repercussions for us.
luckyduck Posted - 27 Mar 2013 : 16:46:50
Anyone know why the trees along Roundstone Lane by the Rugby Club are being cleared - is this anything to do with any of the proposed developments?
derekdainton Posted - 22 Mar 2013 : 20:33:15
We suspect that they have taken note of the reservations expressed by SAV and others and decided they need to put forward alternative proposals.

Pressure is still on them from BMW to find and construct new site in late 2014/early 2015 so we expect a revised application will emerge before too long.
n/a Posted - 22 Mar 2013 : 19:12:28
Any idea why? Answers on a postcard please......
luckyduck Posted - 22 Mar 2013 : 08:08:54
Chandler’s planning application for the village housing development has been withdrawn.
angmeringpaul Posted - 15 Mar 2013 : 12:34:28
Its in.
AngmeringAl Posted - 14 Mar 2013 : 22:55:54
So does the new Chandlers proposed site lie in or outside of the Angmering Parish ?
luckyduck Posted - 12 Mar 2013 : 14:14:48
Thanks for clarity on the parish border - just as bad then for Rustington to have a supermarket, but with the financial benefits used in another part of the district - did Rustington not need this money? Surely funding from Morrisons would have been more appropriately used in Littlehampton, or has that been used as well?
neil Posted - 12 Mar 2013 : 13:57:30
Nigel, it's very difficult to see from any map I possess whether the boundary runs along the footpath or in the centre of the dual carriageway. The Angmering Parish Council 1994 Council Centenary map has it running along the centre of the road, but that is only diagrammatic. Perhaps someone at APC could let us know as just a matter of interest.

Whether the boundary is in the centre of the road or 20 feet to the south, one thing is clear and that, as you say, is that the present Retail Park lies in Rustington.
luckyduck Posted - 12 Mar 2013 : 13:41:23
Presentation of the A259 improvement study
Tonight's meeting of the JEAAC (Joint Eastern Arun Area Committee) has been postponed.
This information will soon be posted on their website together with the new date which is expected to be Thursday 21st March. Members of the public are allowed to ask questions. Please watch the website for the revised date, time and venue.
Nigel Posted - 11 Mar 2013 : 22:53:31
I was always led to believe that the Parish Boundary ran from the 'Blue Star' or 'Texaco' (as it became) roundabout along the cycle/foot path past Sainsbury's, Halfords, etc.
This would make the retail park in Rustington.
luckyduck Posted - 11 Mar 2013 : 15:40:08
Presentation of the A259 improvement study - 7pm tomorrow (Tuesday 12th March) at The Millennium Chamber, Manor House, Church Street, Littlehampton (next to the Church Street car park)

The recommendations of a study commissioned to look at a section of the A259, between Littlehampton and Ferring, will be presented to the Joint Eastern Arun Area Committee on Tuesday 12 March 2013, from 7.00pm, at The New Millennium Chamber, Manor House, Church Street, Littlehampton, BN17 5EW.
luckyduck Posted - 11 Mar 2013 : 13:03:12
Councillors for hire who give firms planning advice - Telegraph
Telegraph investigation: Councillors across England are offering themselves for hire to property developers who are hoping to take advantage of relaxed planning laws which come into effect within weeks.Read more here -
neil Posted - 11 Mar 2013 : 11:08:37
Agree Bert. On all my maps, Sainsbury's is in Rustington.
Bert Posted - 11 Mar 2013 : 11:05:37
From Neil's explanation of the Parish boundary, I don't think Sainsbury's is in Angmering. The boundary, from what was known as the Texaco roundabout to the Windmill Bridge roundabout runs along the centre of the dual carriageway.

Therefore Sainsbury's is not in our parish. That's how I read Neil's explanation.
luckyduck Posted - 11 Mar 2013 : 10:44:55
This shows the importance of any development in Angmering, benefiting Angmering and not somewhere else. The Sainsbury development is in Angmering parish, not Littlehampton - from the Littlehampton Gazette website today - full article here

- The Portas’ Project, a Government-backed drive to revitalise town centres, led by retail guru Mary Portas, has awarded a £10,000 starter grant to reinvigorate Littlehampton, despite the town failing in a bid last year for £100,000 of funding from the project for a pilot scheme.

The windfall has been announced at the same time that recruitment is underway for a new town centre regeneration officer for Littlehampton.

The successful candidate could be in line to earn between £32,216 and £34,549 a year during a four-year contract, funded by a cash injection from retail giant Sainsbury’s, as a condition of planning approval given by Arun District Council for the redevelopment of its supermarket at the New Road Retail Park in Rustington.

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